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chuck todd joins us in a moment from montana. plus, you know those end of life counsel prognosis visions in the health care bills which republicans, like sarah palin, have distorted into death panels? it turns out republicans were actually for end of life counseling before they were against it. that's just one of the inconsistencies we'll discuss with republican john culbertsoc. >> and how far has he fallen? there is a report that john edwards is about to finally admit he is the father of his mistress's child? where would he be if edwards had not been so wisely dejected by wise democratic voters last year. >> and bill clinton has some tough words on the networks crowd on don't ask don't tell. >> and what does it mean to be palinized? ask one who says it could easily happen to her. the definition coming up on the hardball side show. >>> first president obama and his latest push for health care reform. nbc news chief white house correspondent chuck todd is traveling with the president and joining us from montana. by my count there
chuck todd joins us in a moment from montana. plus, you know those end of life counsel prognosis visions in the health care bills which republicans, like sarah palin, have distorted into death panels? it turns out republicans were actually for end of life counseling before they were against it. that's just one of the inconsistencies we'll discuss with republican john culbertsoc. >> and how far has he fallen? there is a report that john edwards is about to finally admit he is the father of...
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she has a solid music career, doing another season of "hannah montana." doing a nicholas sparks' film, but she's still staying in the public life, um like emma watson, who's getting out of the public eye and going to college. >> let's talk about her monetary value, though. she was topped on the list as one of the richest, if not the richest teen, the brand worth a billion. does that kind of power, having the pocketbook behind you, does that mean she can do what she wants? >> not if she wants a viable career to last into her adulthood. she has a ton of money, but how will the public perceive her down the road? >> i wanted to talk about this other kid, noah lindsey cyrus? looking a little familiar. >> yes, we're seeing this hollywood cycle of child stars being perpetuated. we have the innocent younger sister, which is a big japanese animated film, and miley's little sister is starring in it. she voices this little fish that wants to be a little girl. >> well, good for her. >> one of the jonas brothers is actually voicing the little boy in that film as well.
she has a solid music career, doing another season of "hannah montana." doing a nicholas sparks' film, but she's still staying in the public life, um like emma watson, who's getting out of the public eye and going to college. >> let's talk about her monetary value, though. she was topped on the list as one of the richest, if not the richest teen, the brand worth a billion. does that kind of power, having the pocketbook behind you, does that mean she can do what she wants?...
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and then in montana, one of the participants pointed that out. let's take a listen. >> why is that that you've changed your strategy from talking about health care reform to health insurance reform and decided to vilify the insurance companies? >> that's a fair question. first of all, you are you absolutely right that the insurance companies in some cases have been constructive. my intent is not to vilify insurance companies. if i was vilifying them, what we would be doing would be to say that private insurance has no place in the health care market and some people believe that. i don't believe that. >> is there some room to at least some degree vilify the insurance companies? shouldn't they be part of this whole process? >> i think what you said is right. it's part of the process. but it's a very complex process. and you can't take a very complex system and boil it down to one culprit. it's just not fair and it's not right. i think these town hall meetings, i thought yesterday's meeting was very good, it was very instructive. not every question
and then in montana, one of the participants pointed that out. let's take a listen. >> why is that that you've changed your strategy from talking about health care reform to health insurance reform and decided to vilify the insurance companies? >> that's a fair question. first of all, you are you absolutely right that the insurance companies in some cases have been constructive. my intent is not to vilify insurance companies. if i was vilifying them, what we would be doing would be...
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she wants to booed en her fan base, get past this disneyesque, hannah montana image. does this bring in more scrutiny from her? how prohibitive can that be? >> i think it's realistic of her to push things. i think last year she pushed things too far with that "vanity fair" photo shoot. within hours of that pole dance, her new song was number one at itunes, has already exceeded the sales of her last hit "the climb." >> we have seen child stars go wild in the past. is she on a different path than they were? who comes to mind? lindsay lohan. even britney to a degree. it was a rough road for a while. >> brid any rebounded. lindsey has not. it's questionable whether lindsey ever will. as miley takes that dangerous path, it may be a one-way trip. >> what do you think about her family? he dad and mom seem to be so over her. when she reaches a certain age, what can they do? >> only a year and a half left in terms of reigning her in. i think obviously they're show business savvy having been there themselves. i think that helps in this case. there's a wonderful bond between the
she wants to booed en her fan base, get past this disneyesque, hannah montana image. does this bring in more scrutiny from her? how prohibitive can that be? >> i think it's realistic of her to push things. i think last year she pushed things too far with that "vanity fair" photo shoot. within hours of that pole dance, her new song was number one at itunes, has already exceeded the sales of her last hit "the climb." >> we have seen child stars go wild in the past....
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he was also trying to stiffen the backbone of max baucus, senior senator here in montana, chairman of the senate finance committee, to get him saying, look, i will be out there publicly, i'll do whatever it takes to sell this thing. i've got your back. now, just go write me a bill, will you? >> what is it about 5:15 in the morning, time for you to go get a cup of coffey? >> it is very early. thanks for rubbing it in. we haven't seen the glow of the sun come up. you don't know that there is a possibility. >> we invite all of you to watch meet the press tomorrow. david gregory will focus on health care reform with tom coburn, rachel mad do you, and check your local listings for that. >>> local wildfires along california. >>> a mother tasered in front of her children gets ready to sue. she explains what happens before she got zapd. >>> a blockbuster debuts on the big screen. is it worth your time? ( siren blaring ) special interest groups are trying to block progress on health care reform, derailing the debate with myths and scare tactics. desperately trying to stop you from discovering
he was also trying to stiffen the backbone of max baucus, senior senator here in montana, chairman of the senate finance committee, to get him saying, look, i will be out there publicly, i'll do whatever it takes to sell this thing. i've got your back. now, just go write me a bill, will you? >> what is it about 5:15 in the morning, time for you to go get a cup of coffey? >> it is very early. thanks for rubbing it in. we haven't seen the glow of the sun come up. you don't know that...
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the president and first lady will arrive in montana a few hours from now. he will hold a town hall just before 3:00 eastern. getting involved in a informed debate. you can watch the president's town hall live from montana right here on msnbc. our coverage set to begin at 2:55 eastern time. he may have one less rumor to deal with. the end-of-life provision, which some argued would end with death panels. here is an interesting note on former governor, sarah palin, who led the charge on criticizing this. it looks as though palin supported end of life while governor. in 2008, governor palin declared a, quote, health care decisions day, which called for more awareness and the need to plan ahead for decisions needed to end a life. nobody knows how that specifically differs from what had been in the health care plan nationally. >> fun death panels. god help us. we know president obama and the drug industry reach add deal on health care reform that involves billions in concessions, and we know the industry will spend $50 million to lobby for the president's overhau
the president and first lady will arrive in montana a few hours from now. he will hold a town hall just before 3:00 eastern. getting involved in a informed debate. you can watch the president's town hall live from montana right here on msnbc. our coverage set to begin at 2:55 eastern time. he may have one less rumor to deal with. the end-of-life provision, which some argued would end with death panels. here is an interesting note on former governor, sarah palin, who led the charge on...
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. >> i'm joined live from big sky, montana, chuck todd. good morning again, chuck. >> reporter: good morning, alex. >> let's talk about the president's response. what was it and did it satisfy the crowd? >> well, i think the crowd was satisfied with the answer. what the president did was, he answered specifically on this issue of paying for health care. you know, this is something that's frustrated the white house a bit. that is, from the very beginning, the president said whatever they do with health care, it is not going to add to the deficit. the problem is, you know, the general public is still seeing what government is doing in general, in seeing a big deficit, in seeing a lot of money spent. while it is true that everything they're doing, every plan they've come up will be deficit-neutral when it comes to this thing, it's just not -- that part of it is penetrating the public psyche enough, or what, because that has been something that, when you listen to these protesters and listen to the folks that have come to these town has and be
. >> i'm joined live from big sky, montana, chuck todd. good morning again, chuck. >> reporter: good morning, alex. >> let's talk about the president's response. what was it and did it satisfy the crowd? >> well, i think the crowd was satisfied with the answer. what the president did was, he answered specifically on this issue of paying for health care. you know, this is something that's frustrated the white house a bit. that is, from the very beginning, the president...
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jack and i have relatives in montana, people who live in montana are a breed apart. what is being made of this choice of going to montana where there's a lot of independence and plain spokenness? >> you're right about that. a couple of reasons, the mountain west becoming more and more of a swing area. they're very dependent on. of course the chairman of the senate finance committee, max baucus, that's no surprise. that's why they've been running commercials in that area. but a big reason is the president is doing this national park tour ahead of his sojourn in martha's vineyard. we'll see the president in yellow stone and the grand canyon so this was part of that swing and that was the pacific region. why today? why there? >> let's talk about the cheney story on the front page of "the washington post" yesterday. you say this might be much ado about nothing. why? >> move along. nothing to see here. >> really? >> no. the cheney camp says this slightly overstated. i think that the story got the music right if not the words. there definitely are differences in perspectiv
jack and i have relatives in montana, people who live in montana are a breed apart. what is being made of this choice of going to montana where there's a lot of independence and plain spokenness? >> you're right about that. a couple of reasons, the mountain west becoming more and more of a swing area. they're very dependent on. of course the chairman of the senate finance committee, max baucus, that's no surprise. that's why they've been running commercials in that area. but a big reason...
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when he makes the post office line, he first used it in new hampshire, didn't quite come up in the montana one. i think he's going to create problems with people who work in the postal service who are worried they're going to have to do a whole bunch of lay-offs and are going to be shutting down a bunch of mini offices. the point is well taken. >> i heard some horrific number in terms of what they're in the hole. in the billions of dollars. >> reporter: absolutely. >> chuck, we'll talk to you again. it's early where you are, like 5:17 in the morning. >> you know, arizona has this weird decision where half the year on pacific time, half the time on -- >> just go get coffee. wherever you are. i'll talk to you next hour. >> fair enough. >>> almost a dozen wildfires continue to rage across california. the most troublesome of those fires is in santa cruz county south of san francisco. the fire there already charring more than ten square miles. michael okwu is live in swanton. you're with us all morning yesterday with talk about the fires. i understand that the firefighters did make some progres
when he makes the post office line, he first used it in new hampshire, didn't quite come up in the montana one. i think he's going to create problems with people who work in the postal service who are worried they're going to have to do a whole bunch of lay-offs and are going to be shutting down a bunch of mini offices. the point is well taken. >> i heard some horrific number in terms of what they're in the hole. in the billions of dollars. >> reporter: absolutely. >> chuck,...
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new hampshire, colorado, and montana just to bring these kind of opposition forward. all the passion that on the other side. so obama wanted to match that head-to-head. the problem with obama is he gives these sort of sober assessments. he has a hard time matching the passion of the other side. i think that's why over the weekend we heard him start to talk about his grandmother a little bit, something he hasn't wanted to get into so far, but it is an emotional point. it is very resonant. that's why they're doing that, bring up the passion level. >> what about the health care town hall in colorado. the third one in a week for this president. this morning the president again reinforcing his message. he wrote a loengthy op-ed in th "new york times." if you don't get a chance to get to a town hall meeting, it does make a very strong case for the white house's perspective. get ahold of it, everyone. that said, has the president accomplished what he set out to do this week? >> no, absolutely not, alex. they're on the defensive. they're struggling. they wasted so much time a
new hampshire, colorado, and montana just to bring these kind of opposition forward. all the passion that on the other side. so obama wanted to match that head-to-head. the problem with obama is he gives these sort of sober assessments. he has a hard time matching the passion of the other side. i think that's why over the weekend we heard him start to talk about his grandmother a little bit, something he hasn't wanted to get into so far, but it is an emotional point. it is very resonant. that's...
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the president yesterday didn't realize he was -- that yellowstone was in wyoming, made a ron frens to montana and yellowstone, but that's okay. a lot of us get confused. yellowstone is a pretty big national park. but he got to see old faithful, went fly fishing. we hear he didn't catch any fish. press secretary robert gibbs appare apparently caught a fish that he's apparently sporting on his blackberry. chuck, you've been working really hard. are you going to get to the dodgers/diamondbacks game? >> i'd sure like to figure it out. maybe our friends who are watching who are our bosses there, maybe they can -- give me a little time off. >> he'll be a much happier guy, guaranteed. >> dodgers have to win this game. they need to win this game. they've lost two in this series. >> right. tommy lasorda's getting inducted into the brooklyn hall of fame today. i might pop on out there and give him a big old hug and say good for you. >> hope you get there. thank you very much for the work this weekend, chuck todd. >>> to california now and today almost a dozen different wildfires continue to burn across
the president yesterday didn't realize he was -- that yellowstone was in wyoming, made a ron frens to montana and yellowstone, but that's okay. a lot of us get confused. yellowstone is a pretty big national park. but he got to see old faithful, went fly fishing. we hear he didn't catch any fish. press secretary robert gibbs appare apparently caught a fish that he's apparently sporting on his blackberry. chuck, you've been working really hard. are you going to get to the dodgers/diamondbacks...
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in those days, the majority of the leader was mike mansfield from montana and his number two was robert byrd from west virginia. the number one in the senate now is harry reid from nevada and number one on the republican side is mitchell mcdonnell and his number two is robert bennett from utah. dick durbin from lynn's home state from illinois, it's actually unusual for a big state senator to actually have like a huge impact player in the senate because usually it's smaller and moderate size to get the power. >> sure. but does that variable play into a conversation about health care reform which is a 305 million person problem ultimately, particularly for both health care and the economics of providing that health care, does a model like this, is a model like this ill-suited to deal with a problem like health care, i guess? >> yes, this is when -- >> lynn, go ahead, first. >> when you have an each panel, it's hard to make a decision to get something done. i think it's asking for consensus troo early in the process by the small number of people when you have all of these issues swirling a
in those days, the majority of the leader was mike mansfield from montana and his number two was robert byrd from west virginia. the number one in the senate now is harry reid from nevada and number one on the republican side is mitchell mcdonnell and his number two is robert bennett from utah. dick durbin from lynn's home state from illinois, it's actually unusual for a big state senator to actually have like a huge impact player in the senate because usually it's smaller and moderate size to...
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senator max bachus of montana, good evening, senator. so you're supposed to be negotiating all this out with the republicans and the hesitant democrats to gain bipartisanship with a wholly owned subsidiary of the health sector. bipartisanship that will get you what? a total of no votes? and your price has been, let's see, $414,000 in donations from hospitals, $667,000 in donations from insurance companies, just over a million from big pharma, and $237,000 from nursing homes. when you think of getting $237,000 in campaign contributions from nursing homes, senator bachus do you ever think about whether they subtract that amount of money evenly from all the patients suffering and dying in the lousy ones or just from a few of the lousy ones? so much for senator bachus. sadly, this list could go on almost all night, too. i could ask blue dog congressman democrat john tanner, tennessee, if since he has gotten $215,000 from hospitals over the years if i and the appropriate number of my friends were willing to make it $216,000 if we could buy hi
senator max bachus of montana, good evening, senator. so you're supposed to be negotiating all this out with the republicans and the hesitant democrats to gain bipartisanship with a wholly owned subsidiary of the health sector. bipartisanship that will get you what? a total of no votes? and your price has been, let's see, $414,000 in donations from hospitals, $667,000 in donations from insurance companies, just over a million from big pharma, and $237,000 from nursing homes. when you think of...
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when republican congressman spencer backus said the economy faces default in two years, max bachus of montana and he said i may face a deficit in two years, hannity never mentioned the correction. we thought it was just hannity stupidity. he is deliberately lying. last night he continued to repeat the quote. honestly if, the government had standards for news as stringent as it does for when you can call a beverage orange juice, fox noise would be car wash by late sunday afternoon. >>> challiss mcaffee arrest ford taking photographs of a home then said it was part of a foreclosure investigation. when the homeowner rejected pulling a .357 handgun on the man. he is not your average gun happy man. he is member of the eight county republican central committee, a member of the idaho state central republican committee and an organizer of the idaho tea parties. >>> and dateline in woodbury, minnesota, congresswoman michelle bachmann. once she is clearly not through. people need to continue to go to the town halls, continue to melt the phone lines if they're liberal members of congress and let them kn
when republican congressman spencer backus said the economy faces default in two years, max bachus of montana and he said i may face a deficit in two years, hannity never mentioned the correction. we thought it was just hannity stupidity. he is deliberately lying. last night he continued to repeat the quote. honestly if, the government had standards for news as stringent as it does for when you can call a beverage orange juice, fox noise would be car wash by late sunday afternoon. >>>...
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i mean, the president was in montana. he was in colorado doing these town hall forums. the one in new hampshire trying to snatch back the conversation, the agenda from the sarah palins and the newt gingrichs who had been driving a lot of the talk about imaginary death panels and things like that. and i think mickey's right. they've been playing a good inside game, but they've been playing this for months now, and that they had to, at the end of august, snatch it back shows that they weren't doing a terribly good job. and now that we're in august when people are starting not to pay attention, we'll see if the image that sits in the american people's heads when they're on the beat is that president obama, at those town hall forums, or is it back to sarah palin and death panels and all of the negative messages that the republicans have been trying to set in the american mindset? >> winners and losers from where you sit. >> i think it's right. i think that they're basically trying to survive august, right? the senate finance committee is both the winner and the loser, and t
i mean, the president was in montana. he was in colorado doing these town hall forums. the one in new hampshire trying to snatch back the conversation, the agenda from the sarah palins and the newt gingrichs who had been driving a lot of the talk about imaginary death panels and things like that. and i think mickey's right. they've been playing a good inside game, but they've been playing this for months now, and that they had to, at the end of august, snatch it back shows that they weren't...
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he'll talk more about consumer protections in these bills in new hampshire, montana, colorado, talk about things about making sure people don't get denied coverage because of pre-existing conditions of they think that's a powerful argument because people can't move from job to job because they don't want to lose that health insurance if they are already sick. >> thanks very much. we'll read a story on texting while driving and what the obama administration is doing about it. >> coming up, political analyst harold ford plus a look at papers around the country. don't forget if you miss part of "morning joe," see it online. e-mail us your thoughts and suggestion, go to joe.msnbc. >> that is all you have to do. >> so simple. >> so they are only going to hand out tickets to people that agree with them. >> exactly. >> that's my kind of town hall meeting. the great taste of splenda® no calorie sweetener and added a little fiber? sweet! sweet! (together) sweet! (announcer) now for the first time, a gram of healthy fiber in every packet. sweet! (announcer) splenda® with fiber. but i've still got
he'll talk more about consumer protections in these bills in new hampshire, montana, colorado, talk about things about making sure people don't get denied coverage because of pre-existing conditions of they think that's a powerful argument because people can't move from job to job because they don't want to lose that health insurance if they are already sick. >> thanks very much. we'll read a story on texting while driving and what the obama administration is doing about it. >>...
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president obama is planning more town hall meetings in montana and colorado this week following up on his visit to new hampshire on tuesday. he'll likely keep up attacks on what the white house calls wild misrepresentations of his plan to reform the health care system. >>> secretary of state hillary clinton is set to meet with the president of nigeria on the latest leg of her tour through africa. clinton is expected to continue her calls for better efforts to curb widespread corruption. and there are more signs aspirin can help head off potentially deadly conditions. patients who took the drug reduced their risk of death from colon cancer by nearly 30%. >> wow. going back to hillary clinton story, i wonder what bill clinton thinks of hillary being in nigeria today. >> stop it. that's exactly -- andrea? >> andrea, what does bill clinton think of hillary being in nigeria? >> what we later discovered was where was bill clinton on monday night when she was losing it in con congo? las vegas at a birthday party. an early birthday party. >> i'm sure that that had nothing to do with her. >> t
president obama is planning more town hall meetings in montana and colorado this week following up on his visit to new hampshire on tuesday. he'll likely keep up attacks on what the white house calls wild misrepresentations of his plan to reform the health care system. >>> secretary of state hillary clinton is set to meet with the president of nigeria on the latest leg of her tour through africa. clinton is expected to continue her calls for better efforts to curb widespread...
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hannah montana. you predicted. >> thanks for give manager e the credit. >> you predicted. >> there you go. >> actually, you are hopeful. >> i am. >> i get so tired of people being negative on the left and on the right and everybody saying this is the end of america as we know it. you're -- i home hopeful. you're hopeful, too. you think this reset, this fundamental reset is great for america in the long run. >> i do. it's happened before many times and taking a bit of the long view, not discounting the real pain that people feel when the moments happen and they're out of jobs but, yeah. i think it is time after a very long run in one direction to sort of sit down and get a little sane. >> a year ago i was complaining every day about the fact that we as a country had a 0% savings rate. or germany. germany had a 10% savings rate. did they -- while i was -- >> not yet. >> still wasn't. >> yeah. >> all right. i was hoping it would have kateri katerina vitt on our side. we're up to like 7%. we are healing
hannah montana. you predicted. >> thanks for give manager e the credit. >> you predicted. >> there you go. >> actually, you are hopeful. >> i am. >> i get so tired of people being negative on the left and on the right and everybody saying this is the end of america as we know it. you're -- i home hopeful. you're hopeful, too. you think this reset, this fundamental reset is great for america in the long run. >> i do. it's happened before many times and...